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THE PHOENIX FLIES! Interview with Eagle
Skyfire and Kanntara on Project: Phoenix
Fire
FTS: PROJECT: PHOENIX FIRE is a wonderful
undertaking, but it's got a heck of an
agenda. So how did you start?
SKYFIRE:
We started on a couple of levels.
PROJECT: PHOENIX FIRE,
like most good things, started in
a serendipitous way; it really started
by accident, if you will. I am a
Harry Potter fan, and I was on the
HPANA website [www.hpana.com, Harry
Potter Automatic News Aggregator],
in a place called "controversial
issues" where I saw two people
arguing adamantly, but they were
really saying the same thing. So
I stepped in and said "it's
very difficult to deal with all the
negativity. You are both saying the
same thing. Why don't we fan the
Phoenix fires of hope instead?" Apparently,
this caught the imagination of several
people and I was encouraged through
them to create this website of hope
and positive goodwill. It's really
meant to be a place where folks can
get together and talk and really
cause dynamic changes, not just talk
about them.s
KANNTARA: Skyfire approached me
with the concept of Project: Phoenix
Fire and wanted to create a wonderful
home for it. It was a very serendipitous
event for me as well. I met Skyfire
and many other wonderful friends
over the years at a local bookstore.
That bookstore closed and then I
moved further away. I felt like I
had lost a connection to a part of
community that shared the same goals
and interests that I had. I've been
looking for ways to create that kind
of community on-line. Helping to
spread the Phoenix Fire answered
what I was looking for!
FTS: Can you give us an idea of methodologies
that people can find on the website?
SKYFIRE: Very simple things, as
simple as learning just how large
the benefits are to recycling one
glass bottle a day. They could find
a different charity, or a place volunteer.
If they need help, it's a place they
can go to talk and know they will
find a kind ear. So there are a variety
of possibilities. We're a work in
progress - we will continue to be
expanding on the information available,
especially as people contribute.
We hope to see the connections between
people here and around the globe
grow.
KANNTARA: I think the connections
are key. Connecting, or networking,
can be very powerful. When we started
Project: Phoenix Fire I envisioned
a place where someone could go to
learn about a wide variety of topics.
For example, you can learn about
other spiritual belief systems, not
from books, but from the actual people
who live it every day. If you have
questions, there is a safe place
to go and have them answered without
fear of mockery or reprisal.
FTS: Who else is working on this with
you?
SKYFIRE: Kanntara,
God bless her, is the technomage because
I'm not! She is the technical end and
also has a lot of good ideas. There
are other good women who have volunteered
to moderate the site: Maxecat, Samtibbs,
Weesa, Ladyhawke - and you!
FTS: Yes, that's one of the reasons
we're doing this interview, because I
feel it's extremely important for people
to have an outlet for the frustration
of not seeing the world improving if
they are looking at what the media spews
out.
And on that subject -- how can PROJECT:
PHOENIX FIRE balance out the fear mongering
that we get in almost every media outlet
today? If you listen to CNN, Fox, your
local newspaper, even NPR, they are almost
all saying 'It's a done deal, guys -
kiss your ass goodbye.'
SKYFIRE: For years I've noticed
in my travels and talking to people,
there are more good people than,
say, 'chaotic' people. But we need
to find each other, to be able to
connect and to get organized, so
that we can go forward not only for
our own greater good but for the
greater good of all and hopefully
this will impact the planet as well.
So it's more the fact that the media
tends to try and isolate people,
and PROJECT: PHOENIX FIRE is here
to say 'Hey, we're not separate from
each other: we are together, and
we are citizens of the planet and
we can help each other. Everyone's
important; no matter what you do,
everything counts, and it is good
to contribute to each other.
KANNTARA: I also see more good
people that 'chaotic' people. We
just seem to be a quieter group.
No, quieter isn't right. We do not
riot in the streets or cry foul every
time something does not go our way,
so we are not heard as often. I think
one reason for this is there are
not many mainstream ways for us to
be heard. The Project: Phoenix Fire
website is a place to find each other
and work on this... find ways to
stand up and make a difference the
right way.
FTS: Do you take 'stands' on any particular
issues?
SKYFIRE: On several...
that's a bit of a broad based question.
For instance:
some people say, "Well,
we're not taking a stand on abortion,
or nuclear disarmament, on the bird
flu panic" -
SKYFIRE: That's two separate things.
Whatever happens on PROJECT: PHOENIX
FIRE I'm here to create common ground
for solutions that work - so although
I personally have a stand on things,
I keep that out of PROJECT: PHOENIX
FIRE in the sense that I do not allow
myself or anyone to control or to
steer the directions. People are
there to make up their own minds
and hopefully, it invites them to
work together.
KANNTARA: Project:
Phoenix Fire can be viewed like a think
tank, or a place to brainstorm ideas.
The purpose of the site is not to sway
someone's thinking on a particular
subject, but to invite honest, respectful
discussion. My hope is to see these
discussions covering different views
on the same topic. From this discussion
ideas may emerge. Hopefully this will
motivate people to act on these ideas.
FTS: What's your particular background
that you felt so moved to go into this?
What is your path?
SKYFIRE:
It comes from two levels, personal
and spiritual.
On a personal level, I'm the kind of
person who just can't sit and watch.
We all have the ability to do something
and I couldn't just sit here seeing
what I'm seeing, knowing what I'm knowing
- that there are good people and so
many possibilities to help and to connect.
On the spiritual end, I am a shaman
and a tradition keeper and also one
of those people [unintelligible] Warriors
of Stone that has been sent by the
Elders to gather the people so that
we can form a village from this age
to the next age, what we call the "Sixth
Sun." So we can evolve better
as a planet. I personally prefer evolution
over 'not'!
FTS: Kanntara, what is your background?
KANNTARA: My background is multilayered
as well. On a personal level I feel
compelled to help others find information.
I have been an information seeker
since I was very young. I would find
myself compelled to learn more about
something that I may not have had
a very strong interest in, to turn
around and find someone else looking
for that very same information a
few weeks later. Spiritually I am
an empath which might explain my
previous comment! I excel at gathering
odds and ends and weaving them into
something cohesive. I also have a
very strong technology background.
I thoroughly enjoy using current
technology and seeing it transform
before my eyes into something that
will benefit many.
SKYFIRE: I have the strength of
networking within community, with
my Native American background, and
with her Universalist and logical/technological
background, we're two halves of a
whole.
FTS: Quite a stew there!
It's often difficult to get a website
noticed given the millions that are on
the Internet. How are you getting the
word out?
KANNTARA: I am working on packets
that can be mailed out to those who
want to help spread the word.. These
packets will contain a variety of
promotional material. The most prominent
item will be flyers. These flyers
will contain our mission statement
and contact information. The flyers
could be left at stores, conventions,
or festivals, or even passed out
among friends.
SKYFIRE:
In addition to that we're going
a variety of other ways. We
are asking everyone who participates
on the PROJECT: PHOENIX FIRE website
to talk about it within their community
to spread the word, not just leave
flyers. I also know that Weesa's
brother submitted the website to "The
Open Directory project" found
at dmoz.org which helps us in being
listed on Google and other search
engines. And of course, interviews
like this one. The most important
is for folks to tell their friends,
whether it be through cyberspace,
through the phone or what have you
- going through community and placing
us on search engines is right now
where we are going. In a month or
two I am hoping to have a couple
of radio interviews as well.
FTS: What's your goal for the first
year?
KANNTARA: Expanded membership.
In the first two weeks after the
site launched, we had 30 registered
users. I think that is wonderful
and look forward to see this growth
continue. We have already mentioned
some of the ways we are doing this.
We also have some exciting new features
coming... but they are a surprise!
SKYFIRE: The goal would be to
get a good sense of where people
feel that PROJECT: PHOENIX FIRE needs
to do for them in order to be successful.
To really have PROJECT: PHOENIX FIRE
organized, recognized in the community,
both spiritual and 'regular' communities;
and ultimately for PROJECT: PHOENIX
FIRE to really inspire actions, so
people can go there for information
or tips, if you will, to inspire
them.
FTS: Are you looking to do something
like get everyone together to build a
Habitat house, or get everyone on the
site to give money to the Heifer Project,
something like that?
SKYFIRE: Ultimately
we will. It has been suggested to us.
We are researching it, but that would
be more toward the end of 2006. We
are also reaching out to other websites
who have done something similar. Reaching
out to others who have done this before
helps us avoid the 'learning curve'!
FTS: If someone is interested in PROJECT:
PHOENIX FIRE, what do they do, how do
they join, what does it cost?
SKYFIRE: It doesn't
cost anything - just contact one of
the members of Phoenix Fire, or better
yet, if you have a computer, point
your browser to www.projectphoenixfire.com
and sign up - and you're in! And with
life being as hectic as it sometimes
is, simple is a beautiful thing.
If you do join, please write, post,
let us know your need - and your success
stories! We need to hear from you and
to help us spread the fire. This is
a fire of goodwill, that will help
us rebuild a beautiful world from the
ashes of the ugly and the old - to
build beyond the fear and depression
(at least here in the United States)
that the standard media tries to present.
FTS: And please let them know you found
it through FIRE THROUGH SPIRIT.
Eagle Skyfire, formerly
Shadow Wolf, is a shaman and priestess
of the Caney Circle, the spiritual
branch of the Council of Three Rivers
Native American Center in Dorseyville,
Pennsylvania. It was this council of
elders that gave Eagle Skyfire her
name. Her name reveals her in-depth
understanding and dynamic preservation
of living traditions through her role
as a ceremonial leader and spiritual
teacher. Her decades of experience
combined with her strong spiritual
abilities makes her an adept seer and
shamanic healer. She may be reached
at 215-361-9882.
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